1850s, which was founded on opposition to immigration nativism waxes and wames, in part because that economy in the united states led to many fewer border crossings over the mexican border. >> you saw it immediately after the -- you saw talk radio was open to the prospects. sean hannity talked about it openly. it was a huge hello. >> when grover norquist heard that sean hannity -- he happened to be with norquist. he thought this was this huge deal. he, interestingly, has been pro-immigration. >> it is a huge deal. >> he was like looking at it like when -- this is an obscure reference, like arthur vandenberg became an internationalist huge deal in american foreign policy in the late 1940s. if -- >> like when -- >> if there are two people that would get it. if this is a real deal, what you say, with talk radio -- >> i think it is. >> moving on this issue, and i think the bill -- >> let's also keep in mind that the democrats are trying to turn texas blue. there is work afoot to capitalize on the demographic question here. >> jody, this is my question. i feel like we're -- this is a big moment f